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  • Borb voted on elsen's reply to: Welcome to Donut Team, introduce yourself!
    Yo, i'm elsen, as the name above would lead you to assume
    i played Hit and Run throughout my life, in bursts. It is one of the first games i remember playing as a wee 4 year old, and i also remember playing this morning as well. One of these days, i will get that sub 1:50 in asm, but Apu is a bit of an unplugged refrigerator
    i have also always wanted to learn to code, so a few months ago i got a few books that walked you step by step on how to code a game. It was great, except for the fact that i had no drive to complete THAT game. So, i read through the first few pages, did a few of the exercises, and never touched the book again. Now i want to learn how to code some fun stuff just to play around and learn in SHAR, and was told this is a good place for questions and help, along with seeing others work.
  • Borb voted on maz's reply to: Help! A troublesome error!
    I'm not sure if I'm correct about this, but the No Audio hack allows the user to play the game without having any audio output device or drivers (which the game needs in order to run).
    Could be more to that though!
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  • Borb voted on EnAppelsin's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    I'm done here. I've made the point I wanted to. If its not going to be treated seriously and that people are going to jump to "Jake is condoning bigotry", they clearly do not understand the actual issue here.

    If you'd like to talk about this with me privately, be my guest. Done checking this thread. Have a good day everyone.

    Nobody has said this, nobody is saying this. People might be downvoting you because they disagree with your take on the issue?
    Also to your previous point "If someone defending their point is allowed to talk like this, I guess I am to? ", I believe so. You haven't been banned?


    the criticism that the initial action should've been handled privately has been accepted as a mistake due to the serious nature of deadnaming causing a bit of a rash reaction.

    It was "not taken seriously" so much that Borb made a thread to explain their rationale in face of people criticising it. so I don't get this fantasy of it not being taken seriously?

    What else is there? That Thomas and Mavis should have been silenced instead of flinging stuff? Maybe?

    Also again I have been taking note of various criticisms about how moderators handling it, which include differing takes. Some people may be unhappy, some may be happy. Some may be unhappy for the exact opposite reason to others.

    There's definitely been a problem about staff of the past not taking things seriously enough, but I believe we are working on changing that.
  • Borb voted on EnAppelsin's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    The first response accepted criticism that it should have been a DM and tried to explain the reasoning behind why the action taken came off as quite severe.
    I have reemphasised it a few times.

    What then is the problem? Spell it out for me. What is the criticism that has not been accepted here?
  • Borb voted on EnAppelsin's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    Two of said people came back, one even going out of their way to reactivate an account, to downvote and/or create drama. I wouldn't say that's leaving
    Ever considered they didn't voice their opinion and feelings because staff clearly doesn't give a f*** what the community has to say on any matter?

    Believe it or not, with concern about this I have been in contact with a few people to gauge community feeling, but if one or two people disagree, one of which being the person accused of bigotry, this does not immediately point to a serious problem

    Suggestions that moderations should grow a spine has been noted though, and I agree a step towards zero tolerance to bigotry is long overdue.
  • Borb voted on Sparrow's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    Jake’s response echoes my thoughts. If you wanna downvote my comment feel free. But I am one of many concerned about the conduct of the moderation team. I have also reached out to them privately and came to an understanding. But yes Mavis was invited by a moderator and instigated more drama.

    -Thomas Donofri

    Honestly you say you have came to an understanding yet you come here to jump on accusing the moderators of inviting Mavis to harass you and that their actions were completely unsatisfied. Which is it?

    It's already been accepted that in calm hindsight a DM would have been more appropriate but the message was left 8 hours without any reaction and the offence caused by deadnaming caused a frustrated reaction after that. So what else is the problem? Again deadnaming is *serious* and actively causes stress and harm in the individual. In the mind of Borb they were given a warning and didn't respond for 8 hours, hence the rather brash reaction. Follow up responses minimising the problem (there was no "I didn't realise it was against the rules" admission, in fact the claim was it wasn't deadnaming or a big deal, if the vocal complaints were about that maybe things would've come out differently) didn't help things either.

    There's been a lot of calls from certain vocal people about moderators "accepting responsibility", even though the first post actually did accept mistakes. I've yet to see any reflection from the other side, or any indication they actually regret deadnaming, but I am happy to be proven wrong.

    Also a reminder about the community guidelines, deadnaming violates rule 1 warranting an immediate permanent ban (although this was never proposed) as well as rules 3 and 4.

    Also rule 2 forbids vote manipulation, but I'd hope nobody here would be doing that. :)

    My post directly says its wrong, the other people involved have either left the community or are not interested in this pursuit when that was not the problem to begin with because this isn't the problem that these people have.


    Two of said people came back, one even going out of their way to reactivate an account, to downvote and/or create drama. I wouldn't say that's leaving
  • Borb voted on EnAppelsin's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    Jake’s response echoes my thoughts. If you wanna downvote my comment feel free. But I am one of many concerned about the conduct of the moderation team. I have also reached out to them privately and came to an understanding. But yes Mavis was invited by a moderator and instigated more drama.

    -Thomas Donofri

    Honestly you say you have came to an understanding yet you come here to jump on accusing the moderators of inviting Mavis to harass you and that their actions were completely unsatisfied. Which is it?

    It's already been accepted that in calm hindsight a DM would have been more appropriate but the message was left 8 hours without any reaction and the offence caused by deadnaming caused a frustrated reaction after that. So what else is the problem? Again deadnaming is *serious* and actively causes stress and harm in the individual. In the mind of Borb they were given a warning and didn't respond for 8 hours, hence the rather brash reaction. Follow up responses minimising the problem (there was no "I didn't realise it was against the rules" admission, in fact the claim was it wasn't deadnaming or a big deal, if the vocal complaints were about that maybe things would've come out differently) didn't help things either.

    There's been a lot of calls from certain vocal people about moderators "accepting responsibility", even though the first post actually did accept mistakes. I've yet to see any reflection from the other side, or any indication they actually regret deadnaming, but I am happy to be proven wrong.

    Also a reminder about the community guidelines, deadnaming violates rule 1 warranting an immediate permanent ban (although this was never proposed) as well as rules 3 and 4.

    Also rule 2 forbids vote manipulation, but I'd hope nobody here would be doing that. :)
  • Borb voted on Sparrow's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    Also for the record the issue community members have is that an issue that should have been handled discretely was public. We have a moderator who invited a community with the intent of instigating other users. The fact this person is still a moderator is amazing. I was axed from the moderation team in 2018 for not even half this nonsense. If the team wants to continue to paint community members leaving around this time as transphobic go ahead, it’s nonsense. If you want to slander me just know it’s slander. I removed ALLN from this site because I simply did not like the conduct of the moderation staff.


    Hi,

    I would like to note for the record she was not invited, she was just informed that she was being deadname. Thanks!

    And then that user instigated more drama…

    Either take responsibility or don’t respond.


    Just like to note real quick, what happened to leaving the community and your messages a few nights ago?

    Stop deflecting. Take responsibility for your actions, apologize to the community and move on. Grow a spine will you.


    I allowed a community member to say don't deadname me? We have already apologised for the incident of not being in DMs. I have no reason to apologise for letting a community member know she was being publicly deadnamed. We have no other reason to apologise. This is childish and the fact you take issue with what Mavis said and not the issue of deadnaming says a lot about you. Sorry!
  • Borb voted on hipporeno's reply to: My Response to the October 1st Incident
    Also for the record the issue community members have is that an issue that should have been handled discretely was public. We have a moderator who invited a community with the intent of instigating other users. The fact this person is still a moderator is amazing. I was axed from the moderation team in 2018 for not even half this nonsense. If the team wants to continue to paint community members leaving around this time as transphobic go ahead, it’s nonsense. If you want to slander me just know it’s slander. I removed ALLN from this site because I simply did not like the conduct of the moderation staff.


    Hi,

    I would like to note for the record she was not invited, she was just informed that she was being deadname. Thanks!

    And then that user instigated more drama…

    Either take responsibility or don’t respond.


    Just like to note real quick, what happened to leaving the community and your messages a few nights ago?

    Stop deflecting. Take responsibility for your actions, apologize to the community and move on. Grow a spine will you.